News of the other political party
No. Not the Democrats (remember them?): the Libertarians. Who needs Sarah Palin when you have Jesse Ventura to electrify the Ron Paul crowd? Here's his take on the second amendment.
The founders did not write the Second Amendment to protect hunters and sportsmen, he said. “The Second Amendment is there so that we the people, if our government gets out of control, we have the ability to rise up and change it.” The ensuing standing ovation was louder than anything so far today.
He added, “Some say, well how could we stand up to the U.S. government and its entire military might? I got the answer. We threw everything we had at Vietnam, and they were nothing but a bunch of farmers with a couple of AK-47s...” (the rest was drowned out by the cheering).
And his views on the 9-11 cover-up.
When Ventura brought up 9/11, these people starting cheering and clapping. “ Why is it that when you ask questions about 9/11, it’s out-of-bounds?” he said. “Why has the U.S. Department of Justice not charged Osama Bin Laden for 9/11?”
As Ventura continued to “ask questions” about what really happened on 9/11, a vocal contingent in the crowd (coming from all parts of the arena) took to chanting, “9/11 was an inside job.” At one point, it got so loud that Ventura had to pause for a few moments before going on. Many in the crowd were applauding Ventura throughout his discussion of 9/11, but some were sitting stone-faced, looking on with dismay.
I can't quite remember the reasons my very intelligent, conservative lawyer friends in Minneapolis gave me for voting for this guy for governor of Minnesota, my adopted home state.
no doubt it will come to me. I just want to make it clear I was gone from the state at the time.
Labels: Libertarians, Minnesota, presidential campaign
posted by Clemens @ 10:02 PM
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5 Comments:
I don't understand why the 9/11 Truthers gravitated to Paul and the Libertarian movement in general. Both Barr and Paul have said there are real problems with the country without having to make up this crap.
When someone says something really stupid I hate to agree with them moments later but Jesse Ventura is right about the 2nd amendment.
I was disappointed that revolution/check on government powers was not mentioned in DC v Heller. If you are 50 guys with machine guns you will not be able to hold off the military but if you are 50 million people with machine guns, you absolutely will.
If the South had machine guns they would have won the Civil War (or the "War of Southern Independence" for sticklers).
--Joey
OK - so it's you, Jesse the Bod, and Tom Jefferson. What do you three know?
If you think 50 million armed Libertarian types are going to agree on anything long enough to stand up to an army, you have an interesting view of history.
And if the South had won the Civil War you and I would be writing this in German. (And MY ancestors were all here in time to take part in that little attempt at self immolation).
heh heh.
^Yeah fortunately things worked out well most involved ;)
Touche on the Libertarian observation.
--Joey
Clemens,
I heard a speech from Barr the other day that, it seemed to me, would make paleo-conservatives like Jack (and maybe you?) proud. And today they interviewed him on Democracy Now:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/4/libertarian_presidential_candidate_ex_gop_rep
The transcript isn't up yet. If you listen to the audio version his bit is in the last ten or fifteen minutes.
I'm sure I would disagree with Barr on many other things, but it is nice to hear some conservatives saying "Huh? Massive government spending, foreign adventures, encroachment on civil liberties, the imperial presidency - what's conservative about all this?"
It's an odd thing but I think there are a lot of old fashioned liberals who have more than a touch of the Libertarian about them. Or as Commandante Cinco once told me, "you are actually a timid anarchist."
Or a libertarian. Down with the ruling class. ANY ruling class. LIBERTAS ET OTIUM!!
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