Last spring I had an overt, died in the wool, white
supremacist in my class on Migration in World History. One day he went on one of his rants about how awful illegal immigrants were because they were causing our community college system to collapse by crowding into classes where they couldn't speak English. I told him I thought that was nonsense and I was in a position to know, being a professor within the higher education field. Students who get into community colleges speak English, and there are not that many of them. How could the people accused of being willing to work for sub-American wages be able to send their children to schools c
harging out of state tuition rates, as North Carolina does. He didn't buy it.
Providentially when I got home that night I found in the local paper
this article by Scott
Mooneyham (a columnist who covers state politics) which provided me with the hard numbers to make the point I wanted to make. So the next class I asked my class a few questions.
1. How many students go to NC community colleges?Answer: about 300,000. Most of the students thought many times more.
2. What percentage of these are illegal residents?Answer: community college officials say that in 2008 it was 112 students, which is considerably less than 1%. Actually it's about .00038. Most students thought it was as high as 20% and several thought as high as 50% (no, I don't know what planet they live on either).
3. How many times the instate tuition rate do out-of-state students pay?Answer: It varies a bit, but
Mooneyham gives the figure for out-of-state tuition as $7,700 per year. That seems to be about 5 times as much. Students were all over the map on this one, though one or two out-of-state students got it right.
What I didn't ask them, but should have, was how much this costs the state of North Carolina to educate this horde of illegals in community colleges.
Answer: it doesn't - in 2008 the state made about $185,000 off of them. Also, since the state requires that they have graduated from an American high school, it is difficult to believe very many of those 112 were unable to speak English. Most of the ones I know personally speak English exactly like the locals, sadly. As to how overcrowded this makes our community colleges? Not at all. They go to the back of the line and are only admitted if space is then available.
just my luck, the day I did all this the class white supremacist was absent. Oh well. .
Labels: economics, education, immigration